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		<title>By: Jeff J. Snider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff J. Snider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is plenty of time to just give home field advantage to the team with the best record.  They don&#039;t know which team has home field advantage until the League Championship Series are over anyway (they know which league, but that only narrows it down to four teams at the end of the season and two teams after the Division Series), so it really wouldn&#039;t be any different.  I&#039;ve heard people say it would cause traveling problems, but I think the teams&#039; travel secretaries could figure it out.

Let&#039;s say the Dodgers make it to the NLCS this year.  Because the AL won the All-Star game, the Dodgers know they will be starting the World Series (if they make it) on the road, so they know it will be one of two places.

Now let&#039;s say that home field advantage goes to the team with the better record.  They still know the two teams they might play against, and they know what the regular season records were.  So if they had a worse record than both teams, they make the same tentative plans.  If they had a better record than one of them, woohoo, they only have to make one tentative plan!

So there is absolutely no reason, logistically speaking, why that system wouldn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is plenty of time to just give home field advantage to the team with the best record.  They don&#8217;t know which team has home field advantage until the League Championship Series are over anyway (they know which league, but that only narrows it down to four teams at the end of the season and two teams after the Division Series), so it really wouldn&#8217;t be any different.  I&#8217;ve heard people say it would cause traveling problems, but I think the teams&#8217; travel secretaries could figure it out.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say the Dodgers make it to the NLCS this year.  Because the AL won the All-Star game, the Dodgers know they will be starting the World Series (if they make it) on the road, so they know it will be one of two places.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s say that home field advantage goes to the team with the better record.  They still know the two teams they might play against, and they know what the regular season records were.  So if they had a worse record than both teams, they make the same tentative plans.  If they had a better record than one of them, woohoo, they only have to make one tentative plan!</p>
<p>So there is absolutely no reason, logistically speaking, why that system wouldn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Momma Snider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Momma Snider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But how would they determine home field advantage, then?  You can&#039;t wait until the end of the season to see who has the best record, because then there&#039;s not enough time.  I guess maybe the league that wins one year could have the advantage the next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But how would they determine home field advantage, then?  You can&#8217;t wait until the end of the season to see who has the best record, because then there&#8217;s not enough time.  I guess maybe the league that wins one year could have the advantage the next year.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mortensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Mortensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All-Star Ruminations&quot; could be that new blog name you&#039;ve been searching for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All-Star Ruminations&#8221; could be that new blog name you&#8217;ve been searching for.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff J. Snider</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffjsnider.com/archives/all-star-ruminations/comment-page-1/#comment-54064</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff J. Snider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea, David, to put the game after the World Series.  I can definitely see some advantages to that, but there are a few issues.  For one, holding the game in late October or early November would make it hard for certain MLB cities to host the game -- we&#039;re already pushing Mother Nature by having the World Series end as late as it does.  We&#039;d save the three days off from the All-Star break, but there would have to be at least three days between the end of the World Series and the All-Star game, since the whole goal is for all the pitchers to be fresh.  So the only way to pull that off would be to put the game in Hawaii like the NFL does, but I&#039;ve noticed that while football fans care about who makes the Pro Bowl, no one actually watches the game.

I would love to go back in time and watch a bunch of old All-Star games and see if the fact that it was an exhibition really made it less intense.  I know Pete Rose ran over Ray Fosse at home plate, but it&#039;s hard to judge a large group of people based on what one person does, especially when that one person is Pete Rose.  I like to think that the players would play hard and take pride in their performance even if nothing was technically on the line (it would be like playing for the Royals in September -- or April, for that matter -- except that all your teammates are good baseball players).

I don&#039;t know, I go back and forth on whether I want it to mean something or whether I want it to be an exhibition.  I think ultimately, I don&#039;t like WHAT the game counts for (isn&#039;t it silly that if, for example, the Cardinals were to make the World Series this year, they wouldn&#039;t get home field advantage because a team with eight Cubs lost the All-Star game?).  I think I would like the game to count for something (and be played and managed as if it counted for something), but have that &quot;something&quot; not be WS home field advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea, David, to put the game after the World Series.  I can definitely see some advantages to that, but there are a few issues.  For one, holding the game in late October or early November would make it hard for certain MLB cities to host the game &#8212; we&#8217;re already pushing Mother Nature by having the World Series end as late as it does.  We&#8217;d save the three days off from the All-Star break, but there would have to be at least three days between the end of the World Series and the All-Star game, since the whole goal is for all the pitchers to be fresh.  So the only way to pull that off would be to put the game in Hawaii like the NFL does, but I&#8217;ve noticed that while football fans care about who makes the Pro Bowl, no one actually watches the game.</p>
<p>I would love to go back in time and watch a bunch of old All-Star games and see if the fact that it was an exhibition really made it less intense.  I know Pete Rose ran over Ray Fosse at home plate, but it&#8217;s hard to judge a large group of people based on what one person does, especially when that one person is Pete Rose.  I like to think that the players would play hard and take pride in their performance even if nothing was technically on the line (it would be like playing for the Royals in September &#8212; or April, for that matter &#8212; except that all your teammates are good baseball players).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, I go back and forth on whether I want it to mean something or whether I want it to be an exhibition.  I think ultimately, I don&#8217;t like WHAT the game counts for (isn&#8217;t it silly that if, for example, the Cardinals were to make the World Series this year, they wouldn&#8217;t get home field advantage because a team with eight Cubs lost the All-Star game?).  I think I would like the game to count for something (and be played and managed as if it counted for something), but have that &#8220;something&#8221; not be WS home field advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: BG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the baseball All-Star game is awesome.  Other than the World Series, it&#039;s the best thing baseball has going.  

Before reading Jeff&#039;s post, I had two main ways to improve the All-Star game.  The first is basically what Jayson Stark suggests - make the All-Star break longer to give any Sunday starters the time to rest and still pitch in the classic.  My other suggestion to improve the game may be slightly more hairbrained, but could be fun.  And you wouldn&#039;t have to lengthen the break.  Have every team nominate one starting pitcher who could physically handle 9 innings in the All-Star game.  This would probably not be a team&#039;s #1 or #2 starter.  Maybe not even #3 or #4.  Then a lottery would be held to select one pitcher from each league.  In the All-Star game, the manager is prohibited from using this pitcher unless the game goes to extra innings.  That way the manager can continue to manage an All-Star game like he has the past few years, knowing that he has a horse he can ride through extra innings, if necessary.  And it could be the thrill of a lifetime for 2 pitchers.

After reading Jeff&#039;s post, however, I am intrigued by the mutual exclusivity of an exhibition and playing for something.  I hadn&#039;t thought of it that way, but I tend to agree.  I want the players playing for something, though.  One of the best parts of this year&#039;s All-Star game was the effort displayed by the players in the extra innings.  Aaron Cook bearing down to help relieve Dan Uggla&#039;s cross was a perfect example.  Think how awesome the game could be if the &quot;1st String&quot; All Stars (the A-Rods, Jeters, Pujols, Mannys, etc.) were in a meaningful game together at a meaningful time of the game.  The result could be last night multiplied by about 50.

So I agree with Jeff - baseball needs to decide what it&#039;s All-Star game is.  And keep a great thing going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the baseball All-Star game is awesome.  Other than the World Series, it&#8217;s the best thing baseball has going.  </p>
<p>Before reading Jeff&#8217;s post, I had two main ways to improve the All-Star game.  The first is basically what Jayson Stark suggests &#8211; make the All-Star break longer to give any Sunday starters the time to rest and still pitch in the classic.  My other suggestion to improve the game may be slightly more hairbrained, but could be fun.  And you wouldn&#8217;t have to lengthen the break.  Have every team nominate one starting pitcher who could physically handle 9 innings in the All-Star game.  This would probably not be a team&#8217;s #1 or #2 starter.  Maybe not even #3 or #4.  Then a lottery would be held to select one pitcher from each league.  In the All-Star game, the manager is prohibited from using this pitcher unless the game goes to extra innings.  That way the manager can continue to manage an All-Star game like he has the past few years, knowing that he has a horse he can ride through extra innings, if necessary.  And it could be the thrill of a lifetime for 2 pitchers.</p>
<p>After reading Jeff&#8217;s post, however, I am intrigued by the mutual exclusivity of an exhibition and playing for something.  I hadn&#8217;t thought of it that way, but I tend to agree.  I want the players playing for something, though.  One of the best parts of this year&#8217;s All-Star game was the effort displayed by the players in the extra innings.  Aaron Cook bearing down to help relieve Dan Uggla&#8217;s cross was a perfect example.  Think how awesome the game could be if the &#8220;1st String&#8221; All Stars (the A-Rods, Jeters, Pujols, Mannys, etc.) were in a meaningful game together at a meaningful time of the game.  The result could be last night multiplied by about 50.</p>
<p>So I agree with Jeff &#8211; baseball needs to decide what it&#8217;s All-Star game is.  And keep a great thing going.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sallay</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Sallay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making it &quot;count&quot; by giving the winning league home field advantage in the World Series doesn&#039;t change the fact that it&#039;s an exhibition game. In fact, it&#039;s absurd that an exhibition game should get to decide something as decisive as home field advantage. I agree with you though that they should make up their minds as it really is half exhibition, half significant game, and as result can&#039;t really pull off either well.

I wonder, what would your thoughts be on if they made it a pure exhibition game after the World Series, similar to the Pro Bowl in the NFL. That seems to make the most sense if the focus is on the stars. In doing so, you also wouldn&#039;t have to worry about players be overworked or risking injury for an exhibition, since the season will have been long since over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making it &#8220;count&#8221; by giving the winning league home field advantage in the World Series doesn&#8217;t change the fact that it&#8217;s an exhibition game. In fact, it&#8217;s absurd that an exhibition game should get to decide something as decisive as home field advantage. I agree with you though that they should make up their minds as it really is half exhibition, half significant game, and as result can&#8217;t really pull off either well.</p>
<p>I wonder, what would your thoughts be on if they made it a pure exhibition game after the World Series, similar to the Pro Bowl in the NFL. That seems to make the most sense if the focus is on the stars. In doing so, you also wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about players be overworked or risking injury for an exhibition, since the season will have been long since over.</p>
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